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Today, Nate and Aaron hang out, answer a listener question with the help of Christine Leahy, and then chat with Aaron's son Samuel about what it was like to be on the kid side of the equation, growing up and navigating a world saturated with sex.

To check out the Braveful Summit Christine was talking about, head over to:


Ever heard of codependency?  Today Dr. Barbara Stephes shed some new light on the subject as she explores the topic with Nate and Aaron.  Also, Aaron apologizes to the city of Tustin.  As a more specific aspect of his apology, here are some words from a fellow Pirate Monk on the Subject. And thanks to Josh Manifold for picking some of the tunes the today's broadcast.

"On the Nov 8 edition of the PM podcast, you made some pretty strong statements about the beautiful town of Tustin, CA (as it relates to the planned SoCal Winter 2020 mini-retreat).
I quote you from the episode:
"Tustin is nowhere"
"Tustin is in the middle of ugly LA"
"Tustin is not cool"
I believe you may have Tustin confused with a more sketchy burg here in the greater LA area.  So, as to not scare potential SoCal Pirate Monks away from potentially attending the mini-retreat out here in February 2020, allow me to correct some of your misguided Tustin comments:
"Tustin is nowhere" 
Located just 11 miles up the 55 Freeway from Newport Beach, CA, neighboring the populous cities of Irvine and Costa Mesa, and situated in the heart of Orange County (population 3.1 million), we'd hardly agree that it's a "nowhere" town....
"Tustin is in the middle of ugly LA"
It's in Orange County, not in LA.  There's a difference.  Also see point 1 above, and final point which is:
"Tustin is not cool"
Besides being 15 mins from Newport Beach, 9 miles from Disneyland, and having countless dining and entertainment options....the city was chosen in 2009 by Forbes as one of the top 25 towns to live well in America.  Would you call that "not cool"?  I think not.
Apologies to the good city and people of Tustin indeed are in order!
OK, I apologize!  I do love the areas mentioned that surround the beautiful city of Tustin.  I repent!

Today Nate and Aaron get Mondo back in the room, have a mini-meeting, and talk to Mondo's friend Ben about his journey into addiction and the path he found back to freedom.

Today Nate and Aaron are taking a slice of the weekend from Eva Tennessee to explore how we can integrate the Gospel into our lives and recovery, specifically and powerfully.  Nate opens up a vulnerable door so that the men can journey with him towards the love of his Abba.  All that is happening today, on the Pirate Monk Podcast.

Today Nate & Aaron chat with Nick Stumbo of Pure Desire ministries about Nick's story and how to understand the difference between arrival mentality and journey mentality in recovery, as we search for deeper maturity and more honest...honesty.

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Pull up a chair, start up your lawnmower, or rev up your engine and take a ride with Nate and Aaron as they have a chat with Matt Dobber Dobschuetz, host of Porn Free Radio, on this episode of the Pirate Monk Podcast.

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Music on Today's Podcast: Randy Dandy-O; Radio Nowhere (Bruce Springsteen); White City (Pogues); When I'm Gone (Anna Kendrick)

Today Nate and Aaron talk virtual meetings and follow up on some listener responses to last week's episode.  You get that and a MINI MEETING, and it all happens today, on the Pirate Monk Podcast.


Today's Music:

Dive - Steven Curtis Chapman; Another Day - Steven Delopoulos; Said the Son to the Shine - Earth Suit; Blue Train - John Coltrane


Episode 253 * Kaka Ray

Today, Nate and Aaron sit down with trauma specialist Kaka Ray to learn about how trauma affects addiction and what we can do about it.  Kaka will be a workshop teacher at the upcoming retreat.  To learn more about what she's up to, check out,


Today, we've got it all! Unsolicited book reviews, witty banter, a mini-meeting, and the pièce de résistance, a conversation with BraveHearts Michael Leahy.  He'll be chatting about his exciting new thoughts on how to use technology to put connection, recovery and growth on a steroid regimen that won't get you a 30 game suspension.  We're talking about hacking the system today, on the Pirate Monk Podcast.



We've got a mini-meeting, we've got updates, and we've got our old friend Michael Johnson talking about dating with a bigger picture in mind and guarding your heart in the process.  You might not be dating, but if you've got little kids, trust me, you'll want to think through this stuff.  Log on, stay tuned, plug in, the pirates are on the air.  To connect with Michael and his work, head on over to:



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